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Third_Eye
11-08-2007, 05:45 AM
UPDATED: Republicans Keep Kucinich's Impeachment Resolution Alive

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet
Posted on November 7, 2007, Printed on November 7, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/www.alternet.org/67224/

Back in April, Dennis Kucinich announced that he would file articles of impeachment against Dick Cheney.

The story was largely ignored at the time, the leadership wanted nothing to do with it and the resolution was on a fast-track to nowhere.

Until yesterday, that is, when a frustrated Kucinich used a privileged resolution to force a vote on the matter. This was when the 'serious' members of the party -- those who understand that protecting America's ability to wage trumped-up wars unchecked was more important than petty partisanship -- were supposed to step in and join a loyal GOP in tabling the motion.

But something interesting happened along the way. First, there was much more support for the measure among rank-and-file Democratic lawmakers than anyone had expected. What was supposed to attract the dozen or so legislators who make up the infamous "far left" of the party garnered support from 86 Democrats.

But it got stranger still. As the vote to table the motion dragged out, one-by-one Republicans started switching their votes an keeping the resolution alive. According to Raw Story, this was a calculated move to force the issue to a vote, a move that the GOP believed would hurt the Dems. Raw Story quoted Georgia Republican Jack Kingston explaining the maneuver to Roll Call:

"We don't wish to save the Democrats from themselves when their left wing exposes themselves," Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) told Roll Call, noting that Democratic leaders were trying to draw as little attention as possible to the impeachment issue by voting to table the resolution. "When there's an opportunity to show their strong left base, it's important for it to be seen," he added.

I applaud this thinking. That the GOP believes it hurts Democrats to debate the role a VP with an approval rating lower than that of gonorrhea played in launching a war that's as unpopular as Vietnam was in the final years is a sign of how out-of-touch they are with Americans' fury. That the Dem leadership feels similarly -- Steny Hoyer offered the motion to table the resolution -- is depressing, too, in that is shows the degree to which the leadership drinks from the same fountain of conventional Beltway wisdom.

Kucinich's resolution was recommended to the Judiciary Committee, where it will likely die a lonely death. But perhaps not -- unlike Nancy Pelosi, John Conyers, the House Judiciary Chair, has been ambiguous on the issue. He issued a report that laid out a road-map for impeaching Bush, but he also penned an op-ed in the Washington Post in which he reassured jittery colleagues that he was in "no rush" to impeach anybody.

As I said, Kucinich's resolution is almost certain to disappear into a black hole in the Judiciary Committee.

But wouldn't it be nice if the whole thing backfired -- if millions of people let their lawmakers know that they support impeaching Darth Cheney and the Repubs' whole procedural game backfired. After all, the only thing that makes the move to impeach a marginal idea is the fact that the traditional media keeps telling us it is. If the notion that lying about a blow-job was a grave offense worthy of impeaching a duly-elected president of the United States could gain traction, surely the idea that lying the country into a disastrous and illegal war can't wouldn't be that hard to sell.

Today, Kucinich's resolution, and the millions of Americans who support impeachment, are being marginalized from all sides. CBS is running a column today lumping impeachment in with a belief that UFOs are frequent visitors -- 'it's crazy,' they say -- and the Huffington Post features a piece by Gold Star Mother Rosemary Palmer accusing Kucinich of gamesmanship and chiding him for seeking "vengeance" (an argument one never hears for letting lesser crimes go unpunished).

There's a lot of anger out there, and it appears that many among our media and political class just can't seem to grasp the reasons why. It will be interesting to see in what ways that disconnect plays out in the next few years -- to see which groups turn out to vote and what issues really fire up the electorate. I have a feeling there are going to be more surprises in the future.

UPDATE: According to Brad Friedman, Robert Wexler, a Florida Democrat who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to his constituents today in which he called for immediate impeachment hearings:

I will urge the Judiciary Committee to schedule impeachment hearings immediately and not let this issue languish as it has over the last six months. Only through hearings can we bring begin to correct the abuses of Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration; and, if it is determined in these hearings that Vice President Cheney has committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors, he should be impeached and removed from office.

It will be interesting to see how Conyers plays all of this.

Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.
© 2007 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.
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Amber
11-08-2007, 11:21 AM
It would be cool if it passed.

Boombaka
11-08-2007, 12:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYbgouqlMw
Kucinich FTW!

Third_Eye
11-08-2007, 03:30 PM
Video. (\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYbgouqlMw\")
Kucinich FTW!


I think we need to kidnap all of the candidates that are polling better than Kucinich. It would be for the good of the country :eyebrows:

Third_Eye
11-08-2007, 03:58 PM
This was posted on Kucinich's Myspace page today:


Dennis Kucinich is asking for emails supporting impeachment and he will deliver them to Pelosi!

Here you go:
info@dennis4president.com (http://blog.myspace.com/info@dennis4president.com)

DO THIS NOW!

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There's almost always some strange twist to how things move through Congress. The most recent example was just this past Tuesday, Nov. 6th, when 165 Republicans voted to force a debate on the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney, and Democrats voted against it. Somehow both parties thought that an open debate about the crimes of Dick Cheney would embarrass the Democrats.

Here is what happened: As promised, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH) requested a floor vote on H.Res. 799 (formerly H.Res. 333), a bill he had introduced to move a process to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney forward. Rep. Steny Hoyer -- who as Majority Leader is in the second highest position in the House -- moved to table the bill. Then all hell broke loose, as 165 Republicans voted with Rep. Kucinich and 85 other brave Democrats to force a debate on impeachment.

Determined to block that debate, Rep. Hoyer moved to send H.Res. 799 back to the Judiciary Committee. That motion passed with the support of all but 5 Democrats (Kucinich, Bob Filner, Marcy Kaptur, Maxine Waters, and Ed Towns). Read a live blog of the proceedings here.

United for Peace and Justice recognizes the significance of this development, and we urge you to help move this process forward. Here are some things you can do:

1. Call the House Judiciary Committee at 202-225-3951 and demand full and thorough hearings on H.Res. 799/333.

2. Sign this petition to Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee.

3. If you live in the district of a House Judiciary Committee member, call his or her office and say that you're a constituent and you want immediate hearings on H.Res. 799/333. (Click here to look up your rep and find out if he or she is on the committee.) You can also join a local Congressional District Impeachment Committee and organize activities to keep the pressure on your representative, with letters to the editor, calls to local radio talk shows, and pointed questions at every community forum attended by your representative.

4. If your representative is not on the House Judiciary Committee, call and ask him or her to co-sponsor H.Res. 799/333. (Click here to find his or her office phone numbers.) If your rep is one of the 22 who have already co-sponsored H.Res. 333, call and offer your thanks and urge him or her push for immediate hearings on H.Res. 799/333 in the House Judiciary Committee.

5. Start a media campaign, including op-ed articles on impeaching Cheney, letters-to-the-editor about the Kucinich resolution, and informational picketing in front of the offices of local media. Click here to find a media activism kit.

Help us continue to do this critical work: Make a donation to UFPJ today.

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In the wake of Kucinch's move for impeachment in the House, and in response to the news that "Fein says Conyer's Chairmanship has been threatened by Pelosi" re. impeachment hearings, see my letter to Pelosi, copied below (including Pelosi's email address, for those who would like to write rather than call). Please also send an email to Kucinich supporting impeachment hearings: info@dennis4president.com (http://blog.myspace.com/info@dennis4president.com).

Third_Eye
11-08-2007, 07:11 PM
Cheney's Impeachment Literally Fell 'Off the Table'
By Paul Kane And Mary Ann Akers
Thursday, November 8, 2007; A25
Maybe now we know what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) meant when she said impeachment was "off the table."

Lawmakers' voting cards on the issue were literally just that -- off the table -- during Tuesday's brouhaha when Republicans briefly hijacked control of the chamber with a procedural maneuver and thrust the Democrats perilously close to debating a resolution on impeaching Vice President Cheney.

Offered by long-shot presidential candidate Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio), the unusual resolution would have resulted in the shortest impeachment debate ever -- one hour -- followed by a final vote on impeaching the unpopular vice president. Knowing how little Democratic leaders wanted to handle Kucinich's hot potato, Republicans began switching their votes late in the process, hoping to shame Pelosi and Co. into a debate that the GOP believed would expose the radical left in the chamber.

Republicans began siding with Kucinich against the tabling of his resolution, resulting in scores of GOP members lining up to switch their votes. With the House's electronic voting system shut down as the tally neared its final minutes, the only way for Republican lawmakers to change their position was to use old-fashioned voting cards, which, of course, slowed the proceedings further.

And then something happened purely by accident during the nearly two-hour disruption that helped gum up the works even more: A stack of red voting cards fell between a crack in two adjoining desks on the dais. (Red cards signify a switch to a "nay" vote; the green ones mean "yea.") Clerks used rulers, pencils and anything else they could find to fish the cards out so the vote could be concluded.

The House clerk's office didn't respond to requests for comment about the tie-up, but a Republican aide who was privy to the mishap said: "Accidents happen, but accidents in the middle of votes to debate impeachment don't happen every day. Unfortunately for the Democrats, it was that kind of day."

Impeachment: Dead or Alive?
While Republicans embarrassed Pelosi by siding with Kucinich -- once all those switched voting cards were fished out of the chamber's crevices -- Democrats successfully passed a motion to scuttle the hour-long debate and officially send the impeachment issue to the House Judiciary Committee. Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) have declared it dead on arrival there.

But Rep. Stephen I. Cohen (D-Tenn.), a member of the Judiciary Committee, predicts that the panel will hold hearings. "I get that impression," he said. "The issue is still alive."

Cohen is a co-sponsor of the Kucinich resolution, which has three impeachment articles against Cheney. All told, 14 Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee, including the chairman, Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), initially voted with Kucinich, signaling some level of impeachment interest on the panel.

Once Cohen realized what Republicans were up to, he sided with the leadership and voted to send the issue to the committee. "You don't impeach anybody in a kangaroo court," Cohen said. "That in and of itself is an impeachable offense."

For now, the official word is that Cheney can sleep tight. No impeachment in sight.

A statement from the committee indicated that the panel is "very busy" with other issues, but it added that the "committee staff should continue to consider, as a preliminary matter, the many abuses of this Administration, including the Vice President."

Kucinich declined to say whether Conyers had given him an outright commitment, but he said: "I think Chairman Conyers has strong interest in holding hearings, and I'm hopeful that we will."

He said no one was more surprised by Tuesday's drama than he. "I was expecting that I would introduce the bill, and that it would be immediately tabled. I think that was a modest expectation."


Anita Stewart
Deputy Director of Virtual Outreach
Kucinich for President 2008, Inc.

Boombaka
11-09-2007, 06:54 AM
More Kucinich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK-xKR_ipnI

Kucinich is the only Presidential candidate who has a clue how to deal with the Middle East. Everyone else has been bought out by AIPAC and has no clue or is unwilling to address any of the fundamental issues in Palestine/Israel or Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Iran. The rest of the Democrats are as hawkish as Republicans when it comes to the Middle East, and Ron Paul has no plan except to hide behind a rock and hope things resolve themselves.

Third_Eye
11-09-2007, 07:31 AM
More Kucinich: Video (\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK-xKR_ipnI\")

Kucinich is the only Presidential candidate who has a clue how to deal with the Middle East. Everyone else has been bought out by AIPAC and has no clue or is unwilling to address any of the fundamental issues in Palestine/Israel or Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Iran. The rest of the Democrats are as hawkish as Republicans when it comes to the Middle East, and Ron Paul has no plan except to hide behind a rock and hope things resolve themselves.

I completely agree